Lalalalalala

(fingers in ears, eyes closed, shaking head) I'm not listening. NOT listening. Not talking, not responding.

I am happy that everyone who's commenting has found a place to express their passionate views about such a passionate topic. But I have nothing to add beyond what I wrote in the first place, which is that I question all violence, all force, all fundamentalism, and all violence and force applied in the name of fundamentalism. And that I can see why it might be prudent not to do so publicly. OK, wait, I have a couple of random bytes to add in response to some comments made:

1. In the past I have asked why Israel cannot share the land, and I have been told that this was not acceptable to the Palestinians. I don't know if that is true; I haven't brushed up on my history.

2. I HAVE read novels by Phillip Roth, who makes the case that Israel is the perfect place to be a Jew because with everyone Jewish, your Jewishness is no longer so Jewishy. Or something like that.

3. Kibutzers sounds like "kibbitzers" (which means "jokers" in Yiddish). I believe the word is Kibbutzim.

4. No one that I know, including Bebe, justifies Israeli violence against Palestinians by saying, "Because of the Holocaust! So there!" Or anything like that. Various diasporas over the course of centuries brought Jews to Israel, and one of those diasporas took place after WWII. Jews may be in Israel because of the Holocaust, but Jewish defense of the zionist state is not motivated by revenge.

That's all.

YC